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Posted on Oct 27th, 2007 by Chris : Permaculture Designer Chris
Having upgraded my expensive and slow dial up connection earlier this year, I've only recently been able to experience the relative novelty of a flat fee broadband link. This has allowed me to spend more time on line and, after having heard so much about social networking, I entered and began exploring various on line communities.

I signed up to Zaadz in March this year after an invite from dandodec, a young friend in the Welsh Youth Forum on Sustainable Development. I then joined Mycelium (http://grahambell.org/home/10), a network rooted in sustainable development/permaculture design. Lately I signed up with Be Bo after I heard a rumour that a past college student of mine had done a cut and paste job with my image (most entertaining- I responded in kind).

After reading and posting on various forums on the networks and running this blog on Zaadz I began to look around more carefully, browsing blogs and forums and looking at replies and dates. It seems clear that members who are active in terms of their interactions (pods, blogs, forum posts etc.) are in a small minority and that by far the greater number of members merely browse or simply fill in their profiles and leave it at that.

Obviously there's nothing necessarily wrong with just trawling pods and taking in information, experiences, opinions and the like. This in itself can be very useful, allowing a broadening of perspectives, a feeling of not being alone in one's thinking, gathering specific information etc. However, genuine interaction can feel quite thin on the ground with many pods not being posted to for months. Brief "conversations" seem to flare up and die out quite quickly. I place "conversation" in inverted commas deliberately as often posts close abruptly following a simple exchange of views or positions, without any real discussion. I realise that I am generalising a lot here and there are probably many examples that do not fit this perspective (could someone let me know where they are, please?).

On this blog, for example, its clear that several hundred people have looked at my stuff (or maybe fewer people looking at entries more than once...) but so far only two people have made any comments. This leads me to wonder what people actually think of what I'm saying and, to an extent, what is the point of continuing to make entries if I don't know?

I think that on Zaadz, which is layered with explicit, positive support, there is a tendency not to challenge another person's perspective because that might appear to be out of keeping with the loving embrace of the site.

As a practising permaculture designer for some 18 years I actively encourage challenges. When I show people round my site I want to be challenged; it is the challenges that allow me to remain focused on the choices I continually make and adjust them according to appropriate feedback- the challenge.

There are obviously various ways we can present challenges and some forums on other sites seem to actively encourage vociferous, insulting, abusive responses. This is obviously not appropriate, tending to polarise perspectives rather than allowing for mutual enlargement of viewpoints, towards more integral positions.

In permaculture design we use a very simple approach which is first to say something we like about the other's perspective and then to say what "I" would do differently. This allows for the recognition of the valuable but partial truths presented by the other, while offering constructive, creative feedback. By saying what "I" would do differently I am not telling the other what I think they should do, merely offering them an additional perspective. There's no reason why this shouldn't be carried out lightly, in a loving, fun and creative way.

Why don't you have a go here?

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Xia : Cultivator
about 1 month later
Xia said

I”ve recently been experiencing some of the same sentiments that you express here… namely that I keep intersecting with the same small group of active participants.  However I have had a challenging good discussion here and there… unfortunately most are in private via e-mail.

Thank you for drawing my attention to Mycelium!

Because I enjoyed your profile and blog I've tagged you… please see my blog for more details!

Blessings,

Xia

about 1 year later
alonsososo said

Hi Chris,

Shortly I came across your blog and your website. I can learn a lot.
I want to say some thing to your conversation remark. I also tried to find out how that new medium worked and have made similar experience with it. I think Blogs get more visitors than people who want to respond because it is not a real conversation, it is not live communication. Centuries ago, when people used to write letters (thousands often) they had mostly one to one correspondence. The addressed one was really  spoken to and it was not easy to refuse. The new computer communication is like talking to people wearing sunglasses… There are such an amount of information at blogs and other net sources, nobody  can respond to all of them.
But the great thing is, as blogger you are not working in vain because you shape your thoughts and ideas, a little bit like writing a diary.

Sorry for my English.

Alonso

Chris : Permaculture Designer
about 1 year later
Chris said

Hi Alonso,

Thanks for your excellent comments. I like very much what you say about writing letters, one to one communication. I grew up before computers (but not centuries ago!) and wrote letters. I remember how I could rush one off to a bank or business, but then spend ages writing one to a friend (or lover) putting care into every stroke of the pen. I always thought that the more care I took, the more extra energy would go with the letter.

I really like what you say about shaping our ideas and thoughts as we write- this is so true. It is like thinking carefully about something, but there is a map of the thoughts and (with computers) we can go over it and over it and sculpt the thought into something precise and clear (we hope!)

Thanks again, it is good to take off the sunglasses now and then,

Hwyl!

Chris
-your English is very good!

about 1 year later
alonsososo said

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your replay. Again I could learn something new: Hwyl. But for the proper pronunciation I have to come over ( as there are public transport possibilities).
I will keep a eye on your website and blog.

Cheers
Alonso

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